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By Alice Pulley (Fri Feb 03, 2006 at 05:59:25 AM EST) (all tags)
Work - why French people are gits.

House - why mortgages are a pain in the arse.

Social Life - more amusing 'idiotage'.

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Write in poll:

The thing I like most about the French is what?



Stupid bastard French people. I have had an 'amusing' conversation with a French person this morning.

My French colleagues are absolutely refusing to come to any meetings or schedule any conference calls to discuss the current project critical task (production of European wide training materials for a European wide software roll out). This is despite me going over there last week (when it was fucking freezing) to explain to them what was expected of them and how critical it is.

So, my French chum has this morning accused me of being 'UK-Centric' in my approach. I explained to him at some length how if someone asks you if you want to do something and you say no, this is generally considered to be your decision. I further explained that to later on accuse them of not asking you is somewhat poor form. I concluded by explaining I would be repeating our conversation with Big European Boss to ensure that there would be no confusion around this at a later date. Nobs, all of them.

My mortgage situation is becoming complex in that the valuer only valued my (top floor, loads of loft space) flat at £125k, despite the one below being for sale at £140k. I need to borrow £135k to get mine. Arrggh. I can borrow the difference as an unsecured personal loan but frankly, I don't want to. Shit.

Social life is the usual bun fight. Went out on a couple of dates with a Spanish girl. Wasn't sure whether I should or not as although I like her, I don't really like her (we all know where my affections lie). However was prevailed upon by a friend that I wouldn't be doing anything wrong to go out with her. Now she won't stop texting me and asking me if I am free like every day. I don't want to be horrible to her but I am worried that if I see her again I will be leading her on, as she seems too keen. GOD I HATE BEING SINGLE. I may consider eunoch-hood. Am seeing C on sunday as she is helping me lay some bathroom flooring (shes good at arty stuff so will be doing the cutting round bits). I may propose.

In summary, cloudy with some drizzle.

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*stony silence* by DullTrev (4.00 / 3) #1 Fri Feb 03, 2006 at 06:02:31 AM EST

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DFJ?


You've changed man... by Alice Pulley (4.00 / 2) #2 Fri Feb 03, 2006 at 06:04:45 AM EST
...you've changed.

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'But they're adults and perfectly capable of working it out themselves. And if not, well, fuck em.' - Nebbish '06.

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I know by DullTrev (4.00 / 2) #18 Fri Feb 03, 2006 at 06:55:13 AM EST

I've recently decided that when I recognise further effort is futile, when I see that no matter what I do the matter at hand does not improve, or the subject shows no sign of learning or awareness, then I should just stop.

I haven't done anything at work for weeks. No-one has noticed.


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DFJ?
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LOL... by Alice Pulley (4.00 / 1) #32 Fri Feb 03, 2006 at 07:25:23 AM EST
...in a morbid sort of way.

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'But they're adults and perfectly capable of working it out themselves. And if not, well, fuck em.' - Nebbish '06.

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You give up too early. by ambrosen (4.00 / 1) #42 Fri Feb 03, 2006 at 03:09:23 PM EST
All he has to do is take C to LHuSi drinks, and then there's no way he'll get her back after she's met us lot. And then it'll all be fine, and he'll be persuaded, and everything.

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WIPO: I love their reliability by Rogerborg (4.00 / 4) #3 Fri Feb 03, 2006 at 06:26:15 AM EST
Every time they riled us up to invade Englandland from the North while they came in from the South, they could be totally relied on to take a three month fag-break just as we started charging the Redcoats.

I'm so sorry to hear that a hot fiery foreign broad is after some hobbit fetishist sexxorz.  I don't know how you go on, I really don't.  You're an inspiration to us all.

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Thank you, papa. by Alice Pulley (2.00 / 0) #5 Fri Feb 03, 2006 at 06:33:33 AM EST


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'But they're adults and perfectly capable of working it out themselves. And if not, well, fuck em.' - Nebbish '06.

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it's like Alice said by martingale (4.00 / 3) #14 Fri Feb 03, 2006 at 06:47:24 AM EST
Having the work schedule sorted out the week before you start charging the English just makes them cross. I can imagine what was said, too: Come hither blah blah areuh areuh grognon sacrebleu blah blah gin awa' doon the toon blah blah qu'est-ce que c'est blah blah.

Good thing the English were so incompetent or by now we'd all be speak... uh, nevermind.
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The French by nebbish (4.00 / 2) #4 Fri Feb 03, 2006 at 06:33:05 AM EST
I don't want to sound racist or anything, but in my experience they really are a set of miserable, stuck up bastards.

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It's political correctness gone mad!


Do you know what? by Alice Pulley (4.00 / 3) #8 Fri Feb 03, 2006 at 06:38:11 AM EST
I like to think (and believe) I am neither racist or sexist and really do try to take people as I find them.

However, in general the French really are a bunch of self-centred, arrogant, chip-on-their-shouldered, miserable, presumptious WANKERS.

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'But they're adults and perfectly capable of working it out themselves. And if not, well, fuck em.' - Nebbish '06.

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You know by komet (4.00 / 4) #22 Fri Feb 03, 2006 at 07:01:58 AM EST
it's not racist to say that the French are wankers, any more that it's racist to say that black people's skin reflects less light that white people's. It's a mere statement of fact.

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of course by martingale (4.00 / 3) #24 Fri Feb 03, 2006 at 07:09:16 AM EST
That's because W.A.N.K.E.R.S. stands for We Are Not Kinky Effete Royalist Sissies. Anyone with an education knows that.
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Racist. by MohammedNiyalSayeed (4.00 / 2) #39 Fri Feb 03, 2006 at 09:53:14 AM EST

Er, I mean "Statement-of-fact-ist!"


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French, or Parisians? by Rogerborg (4.00 / 4) #13 Fri Feb 03, 2006 at 06:45:37 AM EST
Are you making generalisations just like a typical arrogant Londoner?

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Silence Scotchlandish Bumpkin... by Alice Pulley (4.00 / 1) #16 Fri Feb 03, 2006 at 06:47:58 AM EST
...lest we come North from the only civilised part of the country on our iron horses and subjugate you - again.

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'But they're adults and perfectly capable of working it out themselves. And if not, well, fuck em.' - Nebbish '06.

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hah by martingale (4.00 / 3) #20 Fri Feb 03, 2006 at 06:59:26 AM EST
Like the Scots are scared of the Welsh? Good one.
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You know why we won Bannockburn? by Rogerborg (4.00 / 2) #37 Fri Feb 03, 2006 at 09:13:05 AM EST
The Welsh archers went on strike.  Hip hip huzzah for Taffy shop stewards.

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Of course I am by nebbish (4.00 / 3) #21 Fri Feb 03, 2006 at 07:00:50 AM EST
Though as the sort of dashing, interesting metropolitan cad-about-town people in the frozen north only know from the pages of Hello!, my experience of France is limited to day trips to Calais.

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not at all by martingale (4.00 / 2) #19 Fri Feb 03, 2006 at 06:57:05 AM EST
Misery is a question of where one stands. Now take Brighton for instance, and take the Côte d'Azur. The former is absolutely miserable in every way, while the latter only has a smelly polluted sea. No comparison. Of course, anyone who can stand in both places at once is going to be walking funny in the morning.
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The thing I like most about the French is what? by jump the ladder (4.00 / 2) #6 Fri Feb 03, 2006 at 06:33:51 AM EST
Women and Paris.

I've had a mixed experience with French people at work. At Unilever where the official company language was English, the French office was the only one that sent all communications in French. French people to work with in blighty have been much like anyone else although my brothers find them a pain in the arse and cliquey.



Maybe... by Alice Pulley (4.00 / 2) #10 Fri Feb 03, 2006 at 06:42:44 AM EST
...some of the obstinancy is caused by the fact they they were previously a French owned company and we have bought them and are causing them to change to 20th Century working practices (note: not 21st Century as my company is still a bit behind the times).

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'But they're adults and perfectly capable of working it out themselves. And if not, well, fuck em.' - Nebbish '06.

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The thing I like most about the French is by Merekat (4.00 / 4) #7 Fri Feb 03, 2006 at 06:37:04 AM EST
Their ability to cook a steak without turning it into a blunt weapon. And the cheese. And the wine. And the cider. And the bouillabaisse. And paté.

I think there is a theme here.



Perhaps I should have qualified... by Alice Pulley (4.00 / 1) #9 Fri Feb 03, 2006 at 06:40:33 AM EST
What personality traits do you like in the French?

Although I hate overcooked meat, I must admit I do find the French undercook it slightly...

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'But they're adults and perfectly capable of working it out themselves. And if not, well, fuck em.' - Nebbish '06.

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Okay by Merekat (4.00 / 3) #11 Fri Feb 03, 2006 at 06:42:51 AM EST
Sufficient pride not to accept any crap shovelled at them in the disguise of food?

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+1, still food related. by Alice Pulley (2.00 / 0) #17 Fri Feb 03, 2006 at 06:53:25 AM EST


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'But they're adults and perfectly capable of working it out themselves. And if not, well, fuck em.' - Nebbish '06.

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Hmm by gazbo (4.00 / 2) #12 Fri Feb 03, 2006 at 06:43:46 AM EST
I am a big fan of good French wine, but my only experience with steak in a French restaurant was that it was worse in every way than in an English pub.  I asked for rare, and got it even more well done than you'd get at Wetherspoons.

I realise this was probably just a bad restaurant, but FUCK ZEM ALL!

That said, the foods available at their supermarkets are really rather good.


"Engarde!" cried the larvae, huskily. - Scrymarch

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heh heh by Merekat (4.00 / 1) #15 Fri Feb 03, 2006 at 06:47:44 AM EST
They probably sussed your accent and acted on stereotype:) I hope you sent it back.

Most of my eating in France has been in people's homes more than restaurants. And yes, E-LeClerc and their ilk kick Tesco ass.

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Sort of - in fact I behaved very out of character by gazbo (4.00 / 2) #28 Fri Feb 03, 2006 at 07:21:13 AM EST
We got there at 8:30 or so, tired after a day's climbing.  He told us that there would be a bit of a wait as they were busy - fair enough.  We took a table, ordered drinks and waited.

Finally, at about 10:00 they took our order - more than a bit of a wait, but whatever.  Then, after much prompting and grumbling, we were finally served our food at about 11:00 (also, many people had had to change their orders because they'd run out).  My steak was served overdone, with a side-portion of fries.  Oven fries.  Nothing else.  Same goes for someone else's meat - but that wasn't overcooked, it was just all gristle.  One of our party just had his order completely forgotten.

But what to do?  It was past 11:00, we'd not get in anywhere else, and we were hungry.  So we ate, then when it came to pay I (as the person with the least bad French) went to the waiter and said "We'll pay full price for the drinks, but the food was shit.  We'll give you half for it and no more."

That is very out of character for me - I'm generally very English.  A big argument followed, but we ended up getting our way.  Cocks.


"Engarde!" cried the larvae, huskily. - Scrymarch

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You are my new god by Rogerborg (4.00 / 3) #38 Fri Feb 03, 2006 at 09:15:11 AM EST
I trust that the conversation was carried out in LOUD, SLOW ENGLISH.

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French cuisine is overrated by komet (4.00 / 1) #25 Fri Feb 03, 2006 at 07:11:19 AM EST
Italian is just as good. So is Spanish. So is Mexican. So is Indian. So is Thai. So even is German good. So is Turkish. So is Greek. So is Argentinian. So is Chinese. So is Australian. All just as good as French food, but they're not such dicks about it (though Italian comes close), which in my book makes it better. Taking things seriously is a sin in my view.

Of the ten worst meals I've had in my life, the majority were in France. Of course I've also eaten well there, but mostly in the Alsace so it was really German cuisine anyway.

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well not by martingale (2.00 / 0) #26 Fri Feb 03, 2006 at 07:14:56 AM EST
so much Greek or Australien. Turkish haven't tried much of it. Argentinian is a bbq lover's dream.
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French cuisine by Merekat (2.00 / 0) #34 Fri Feb 03, 2006 at 08:09:34 AM EST
I like pretty much all the others you mention but I will qualify that I'm not talking about French Cuisine with capital letters because I don't have much experience of that, just Breton home cooking.  I'm talking about a routine attitude to what someone will make in their own house and what they'll tolerate about the quality of basic ingredients etc. without being a precious diva about it. I noticed the same trait in northern Spain and really enjoyed the food there too.

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What I like about the French by motty (4.00 / 2) #23 Fri Feb 03, 2006 at 07:06:31 AM EST
Their wine. Their cognac. Their pinot. Any other alcoholic drink they may come up with, probably. Their food. Their bread. Their cheese. Their goat's cheese, particularly. Their attitude to food. Their ability to make even simple and quick food something special. The fact that I have never played a gig in France where I wasn't at least fed and watered. Their clear signposting on roads (apart from Niort, which sucks). Their weather, especially towards the south. Their language. Their comics. Their coffee. Oh god, their coffee. Their contempt for Parisians and big-city wankerdom in general. Their healthy distrust of US foreign policy. Their ability to combine a fundamental decency with a strong notion of a good quality of life for all. Their music, especially their hiphop, French being just a better language for that than English. Their insistence on not allowing shallow marketing bullshit and bean counting wankstains to destroy their cultural industries, so even books that are not going to be bestsellers can still be published, and arts in general are valued for their artistic qualities rather than their merchandising potential. Their countryside, except when I'm stuck behind one of their tractors. Their coffee.

Did I mention their coffee?

I amd itn ecaptiaghle of drinking sthis d dar - Dr T


I fear I am generalising Parisians... by Alice Pulley (4.00 / 2) #27 Fri Feb 03, 2006 at 07:17:23 AM EST
...to the rest of France.

Seriously, though - French hiphop?

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'But they're adults and perfectly capable of working it out themselves. And if not, well, fuck em.' - Nebbish '06.

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Seriously... by motty (4.00 / 1) #29 Fri Feb 03, 2006 at 07:22:28 AM EST
Yes. MC Solaar is a good place to start. I'm no expert on it by any means, and I'm quite sure there's plenty of shit French hiphop that I've not heard too, but what I have heard tends to have much more mellifluous vocal (due to the language itself) and generally much more laid back and jazzy beats than UK or US styles, which I like. YMMV.

I amd itn ecaptiaghle of drinking sthis d dar - Dr T
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Don't knock it till you've tried it, I guess. by Alice Pulley (2.00 / 0) #31 Fri Feb 03, 2006 at 07:24:38 AM EST
MC Solaar noted.

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'But they're adults and perfectly capable of working it out themselves. And if not, well, fuck em.' - Nebbish '06.

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French hiphop by spiralx (2.00 / 0) #46 Tue Feb 07, 2006 at 08:19:51 AM EST
France is the second largest producer of hip-hop in the world. Plenty of disaffected youth in ghettos I guess.


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The French by komet (4.00 / 3) #30 Fri Feb 03, 2006 at 07:23:42 AM EST
Strange to see everyone talking about the food. Murdering your wife because she overcooked your steak is not a mark of civilisation.

What we should thank the French for is a) the French Revolution, which is a big foundation stone to modern democratic states; and b) doing something about literacy in England; and in doing so, they made English the most illogically spelt language in existence, something I whole-heartedly approve of.

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WIPO: The smell (nt) by DesiredUsername (2.50 / 2) #33 Fri Feb 03, 2006 at 07:30:32 AM EST


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Bashing teh French by bob6 (2.00 / 0) #35 Fri Feb 03, 2006 at 08:47:54 AM EST
It just struck me you brits just sound the same as americans.

Btw, it seems I was in England while you were in France. It was fucking freezing too.

Cheers.


Dude... by Alice Pulley (4.00 / 1) #36 Fri Feb 03, 2006 at 08:51:45 AM EST
...if you thought England was cold imagine losing another 5-10 degrees and adding snow.

In fairness, I have tried not to go along with bash-a-thons but I genuinely speak as I find.

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'But they're adults and perfectly capable of working it out themselves. And if not, well, fuck em.' - Nebbish '06.

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Below 15 (Celsius, mind you) by bob6 (2.00 / 0) #40 Fri Feb 03, 2006 at 11:37:03 AM EST
... it's all the same for me.

So, in the end, will you manage to make them do the job?

Cheers.
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Yes. by Alice Pulley (2.00 / 0) #44 Mon Feb 06, 2006 at 04:49:16 AM EST
Via the medium of grassing them up to the Big European Boss each time they are destructive rather than constructive untill they start making my life easier.

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'But they're adults and perfectly capable of working it out themselves. And if not, well, fuck em.' - Nebbish '06.

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All is well then by bob6 (4.00 / 1) #45 Mon Feb 06, 2006 at 07:49:40 AM EST
You just have to play the bad guy role, for which I hope you're well paid enough...

Cheers.
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You pretend to be a Southerner. by ambrosen (4.00 / 1) #41 Fri Feb 03, 2006 at 12:01:02 PM EST
But then you say "I speak as'I find, aye, that's what I do." Obviously, it *could* be that it's just your French opposite number that's like that, but it could be more widespread. I've found French universities to be good to deal with, though. Perhaps it helps if you are preserving their fragile language on a computer or helping people translate into it.

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WIPO: Laetitia Casta by debacle (4.00 / 1) #43 Fri Feb 03, 2006 at 03:50:27 PM EST
I'd like to beurre that brioche, IYKWIM.

"I'm very responsive to certain stimuli, and pain is pretty much at the top of that list." - BadDoggie



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